Does Mass Effect 2 on PS3 need Mass Effect 1 to be a success

gamer22 wrote:

TheJubJub5721 wrote:

gow wrote:Mass Effect 2 will be a success on the PS3 with out doubt I'm etismating about 1 million copies sold within the first 2 months. As TRF has said the whole Mass Effect experience will be better on the 360 and PC but just mass effect 2 will be better on the PS3

I can barely see it reaching 1 million lifetime, because without the first I doubt it will sell well.

Elder Scrolls IV sold over a million with a fraction of the fanbase back in 2007. Keep in mind that was the first entry to the franchise. There were three Elder Scrolls games made.

Fallout 3 did extremely well on 360 and PS3 yet the first two games were only on PC. A good game is a good game. Mass Effect 2 is a great game. And you can bet the bank Sony is going to advertise the hell out of this game with Kevin Butler.

While I don't disagree with you, keep in mind that The Elder Scrolls IV and Fallout 3 are not story-heavy games.

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gamer22 wrote:

TheJubJub5721 wrote:

gow wrote:Mass Effect 2 will be a success on the PS3 with out doubt I'm etismating about 1 million copies sold within the first 2 months. As TRF has said the whole Mass Effect experience will be better on the 360 and PC but just mass effect 2 will be better on the PS3

I can barely see it reaching 1 million lifetime, because without the first I doubt it will sell well.

Elder Scrolls IV sold over a million with a fraction of the fanbase back in 2007. Keep in mind that was the first entry to the franchise. There were three Elder Scrolls games made.

Fallout 3 did extremely well on 360 and PS3 yet the first two games were only on PC. A good game is a good game. Mass Effect 2 is a great game. And you can bet the bank Sony is going to advertise the hell out of this game with Kevin Butler.

While I don't disagree with you, keep in mind that The Elder Scrolls IV and Fallout 3 are not story-heavy games.

Now this is the conundrum you entered. How would you know if they are or aren't story based games until you played them? by default most RPGs are very story based. Again the only people that are complaining about the whole "you need to play ME1 to enjoy ME2" are those that actually have played ME1 and ME2. To those that haven't played any, it's irrelevant. The bottom line, ME2 has received huge praise for many review outlets and it's one of the best games to be released this year. That alone will make ME2 on PS3 successful.

Im happy ME2 is coming to the Ps3, but i doubt it will sell good, because every Ps3 owner who really wanted to play ME already got it for his Pc... i personaly know examples for this.
Still cool though, because sales mean shit for me, the companys should be the only ones who care about them.

Gutzahn wrote:Im happy ME2 is coming to the Ps3, but i doubt it will sell good, because every Ps3 owner who really wanted to play ME already got it for his Pc... i personaly know examples for this.
Still cool though, because sales mean shit for me, the companys should be the only ones who care about them.

If that were the case, then no one would be excited for this, right?

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Gutzahn wrote:Im happy ME2 is coming to the Ps3, but i doubt it will sell good, because every Ps3 owner who really wanted to play ME already got it for his Pc... i personaly know examples for this.
Still cool though, because sales mean shit for me, the companys should be the only ones who care about them.

If that were the case, then no one would be excited for this, right?

well i dont know anyone who is excited about this :/
Which does not mean, that i dont apreciate the fact .that a grat game like ME is coming to the Ps3, thats awesome, but i just dont think it will sell very well.

Gutzahn wrote:Im happy ME2 is coming to the Ps3, but i doubt it will sell good, because every Ps3 owner who really wanted to play ME already got it for his Pc... i personaly know examples for this.
Still cool though, because sales mean shit for me, the companys should be the only ones who care about them.

Those same owners could of bought Oblivion for PC as well yet it went to sell over a million copies. IMO the whole "I can play it on pc" is more of an ideology that PS3 owners use rather than actually put in practice. I don't think even half the PS3 fanbase (or 360 fanbase) have a gaming PC.

gamer22 wrote:

Gutzahn wrote:Im happy ME2 is coming to the Ps3, but i doubt it will sell good, because every Ps3 owner who really wanted to play ME already got it for his Pc... i personaly know examples for this.
Still cool though, because sales mean shit for me, the companys should be the only ones who care about them.

Those same owners could of bought Oblivion for PC as well yet it went to sell over a million copies. IMO the whole "I can play it on pc" is more of an ideology that PS3 owners use rather than actually put in practice. I don't think even half the PS3 fanbase (or 360 fanbase) have a gaming PC.

Exactly. If everyone had PCs, then this announcement would not be as big a deal as it is.

Zillah wrote:

2months? In fucking fairy world.
I wouldn't go as far to say lifetime. PS3 games have been out selling 360 games as of this year. So I don't see any slowing down.

Because there was no killer-game for the 360 in this year so far. Halo reach might sell as good as all Playstation exclusives this year combined...
I prefer the Ps3 obviously, but i can accept the fact ,that 360 games sell more units.
Because the quality of a company/game means shit, as long as another company/game has more advertising. (Not saying Halo Reach will be bad, in fact i will play through the whole campaign with a friend because i like it.)

So back to topic: Again, i dont bash the Mass Effect version for the Ps3, i just dont think it will sell quite as well as the 360 version. Which does obviously not change the high quality of the title.
Thats just prediction, so of course i can be wrong.

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gamer22 wrote:

Gutzahn wrote:Im happy ME2 is coming to the Ps3, but i doubt it will sell good, because every Ps3 owner who really wanted to play ME already got it for his Pc... i personaly know examples for this.
Still cool though, because sales mean shit for me, the companys should be the only ones who care about them.

Those same owners could of bought Oblivion for PC as well yet it went to sell over a million copies. IMO the whole "I can play it on pc" is more of an ideology that PS3 owners use rather than actually put in practice. I don't think even half the PS3 fanbase (or 360 fanbase) have a gaming PC.

Exactly. If everyone had PCs, then this announcement would not be as big a deal as it is.

Yes it's definitely more of an ideology. What should be expressed is not "I can play it on PC" but more of "I don't need a 360 to play it if I wanted to play it".

gamer22 wrote:

TheJubJub5721 wrote:

gow wrote:Mass Effect 2 will be a success on the PS3 with out doubt I'm etismating about 1 million copies sold within the first 2 months. As TRF has said the whole Mass Effect experience will be better on the 360 and PC but just mass effect 2 will be better on the PS3

I can barely see it reaching 1 million lifetime, because without the first I doubt it will sell well.

Elder Scrolls IV sold over a million with a fraction of the fanbase back in 2007. Keep in mind that was the first entry to the franchise. There were three Elder Scrolls games made.

Fallout 3 did extremely well on 360 and PS3 yet the first two games were only on PC. A good game is a good game. Mass Effect 2 is a great game. And you can bet the bank Sony is going to advertise the hell out of this game with Kevin Butler.

The Elder Scrolls IV and Fallout 3 aren't realy sequels to the others, they just have the same name.

Fallout is based around the same timeline though

TheJubJub5721 wrote:

gamer22 wrote:

TheJubJub5721 wrote:

gow wrote:Mass Effect 2 will be a success on the PS3 with out doubt I'm etismating about 1 million copies sold within the first 2 months. As TRF has said the whole Mass Effect experience will be better on the 360 and PC but just mass effect 2 will be better on the PS3

I can barely see it reaching 1 million lifetime, because without the first I doubt it will sell well.

Elder Scrolls IV sold over a million with a fraction of the fanbase back in 2007. Keep in mind that was the first entry to the franchise. There were three Elder Scrolls games made.

Fallout 3 did extremely well on 360 and PS3 yet the first two games were only on PC. A good game is a good game. Mass Effect 2 is a great game. And you can bet the bank Sony is going to advertise the hell out of this game with Kevin Butler.

The Elder Scrolls IV and Fallout 3 aren't realy sequels to the others, they just have the same name.

Just like Final Fantasy games??

Gutzahn wrote:

TheJubJub5721 wrote:

gamer22 wrote:

TheJubJub5721 wrote:

gow wrote:Mass Effect 2 will be a success on the PS3 with out doubt I'm etismating about 1 million copies sold within the first 2 months. As TRF has said the whole Mass Effect experience will be better on the 360 and PC but just mass effect 2 will be better on the PS3

I can barely see it reaching 1 million lifetime, because without the first I doubt it will sell well.

Elder Scrolls IV sold over a million with a fraction of the fanbase back in 2007. Keep in mind that was the first entry to the franchise. There were three Elder Scrolls games made.

Fallout 3 did extremely well on 360 and PS3 yet the first two games were only on PC. A good game is a good game. Mass Effect 2 is a great game. And you can bet the bank Sony is going to advertise the hell out of this game with Kevin Butler.

The Elder Scrolls IV and Fallout 3 aren't realy sequels to the others, they just have the same name.

Just like Final Fantasy games??

It's a little different. The Fallout and TES games all reside within the same universe, but the Final Fantasy games all contain different universes, with a few exceptions like FFX-2, or Crisis Core: FFVII.

Gutzahn wrote:

TheJubJub5721 wrote:

gamer22 wrote:

TheJubJub5721 wrote:

gow wrote:Mass Effect 2 will be a success on the PS3 with out doubt I'm etismating about 1 million copies sold within the first 2 months. As TRF has said the whole Mass Effect experience will be better on the 360 and PC but just mass effect 2 will be better on the PS3

I can barely see it reaching 1 million lifetime, because without the first I doubt it will sell well.

Elder Scrolls IV sold over a million with a fraction of the fanbase back in 2007. Keep in mind that was the first entry to the franchise. There were three Elder Scrolls games made.

Fallout 3 did extremely well on 360 and PS3 yet the first two games were only on PC. A good game is a good game. Mass Effect 2 is a great game. And you can bet the bank Sony is going to advertise the hell out of this game with Kevin Butler.

The Elder Scrolls IV and Fallout 3 aren't realy sequels to the others, they just have the same name.

Just like Final Fantasy games??

Never played FF enough to know.

TheJubJub5721 wrote:

gamer22 wrote:

TheJubJub5721 wrote:

gow wrote:Mass Effect 2 will be a success on the PS3 with out doubt I'm etismating about 1 million copies sold within the first 2 months. As TRF has said the whole Mass Effect experience will be better on the 360 and PC but just mass effect 2 will be better on the PS3

I can barely see it reaching 1 million lifetime, because without the first I doubt it will sell well.

Elder Scrolls IV sold over a million with a fraction of the fanbase back in 2007. Keep in mind that was the first entry to the franchise. There were three Elder Scrolls games made.

Fallout 3 did extremely well on 360 and PS3 yet the first two games were only on PC. A good game is a good game. Mass Effect 2 is a great game. And you can bet the bank Sony is going to advertise the hell out of this game with Kevin Butler.

The Elder Scrolls IV and Fallout 3 aren't realy sequels to the others, they just have the same name.

whaaaa?

yeah they are. They are all part of the same universe. Or are you trying to say that you don't need to play ES1,2 and 3 nor do you have to play Fallout 1 and 2 to enjoy ESIV and FO3 cause in their own right they are great games despite the fact you're missing so much back story to those games?

Hmmm sounds familiar

gamer22 wrote:

TheJubJub5721 wrote:

gamer22 wrote:

TheJubJub5721 wrote:

gow wrote:Mass Effect 2 will be a success on the PS3 with out doubt I'm etismating about 1 million copies sold within the first 2 months. As TRF has said the whole Mass Effect experience will be better on the 360 and PC but just mass effect 2 will be better on the PS3

I can barely see it reaching 1 million lifetime, because without the first I doubt it will sell well.

Elder Scrolls IV sold over a million with a fraction of the fanbase back in 2007. Keep in mind that was the first entry to the franchise. There were three Elder Scrolls games made.

Fallout 3 did extremely well on 360 and PS3 yet the first two games were only on PC. A good game is a good game. Mass Effect 2 is a great game. And you can bet the bank Sony is going to advertise the hell out of this game with Kevin Butler.

The Elder Scrolls IV and Fallout 3 aren't realy sequels to the others, they just have the same name.

whaaaa?

yeah they are. They are all part of the same universe. Or are you trying to say that you don't need to play ES1,2 and 3 nor do you have to play Fallout 1 and 2 to enjoy ESIV and FO3 cause in their own right they are great games despite the fact you're missing so much back story to those games?

Hmmm sounds familiar

Ok, I will rephrase it. You dont need to play TES3 to know the TESIV story, same with Fallout.

TheJubJub5721 wrote:

gamer22 wrote:

TheJubJub5721 wrote:

gamer22 wrote:

TheJubJub5721 wrote:

gow wrote:Mass Effect 2 will be a success on the PS3 with out doubt I'm etismating about 1 million copies sold within the first 2 months. As TRF has said the whole Mass Effect experience will be better on the 360 and PC but just mass effect 2 will be better on the PS3

I can barely see it reaching 1 million lifetime, because without the first I doubt it will sell well.

Elder Scrolls IV sold over a million with a fraction of the fanbase back in 2007. Keep in mind that was the first entry to the franchise. There were three Elder Scrolls games made.

Fallout 3 did extremely well on 360 and PS3 yet the first two games were only on PC. A good game is a good game. Mass Effect 2 is a great game. And you can bet the bank Sony is going to advertise the hell out of this game with Kevin Butler.

The Elder Scrolls IV and Fallout 3 aren't realy sequels to the others, they just have the same name.

whaaaa?

yeah they are. They are all part of the same universe. Or are you trying to say that you don't need to play ES1,2 and 3 nor do you have to play Fallout 1 and 2 to enjoy ESIV and FO3 cause in their own right they are great games despite the fact you're missing so much back story to those games?

Hmmm sounds familiar

Ok, I will rephrase it. You dont need to play TES3 to know the TESIV story, same with Fallout.

Same with ME2.

gamer22 wrote:

TheJubJub5721 wrote:

gamer22 wrote:

TheJubJub5721 wrote:

gamer22 wrote:

TheJubJub5721 wrote:

gow wrote:Mass Effect 2 will be a success on the PS3 with out doubt I'm etismating about 1 million copies sold within the first 2 months. As TRF has said the whole Mass Effect experience will be better on the 360 and PC but just mass effect 2 will be better on the PS3

I can barely see it reaching 1 million lifetime, because without the first I doubt it will sell well.

Elder Scrolls IV sold over a million with a fraction of the fanbase back in 2007. Keep in mind that was the first entry to the franchise. There were three Elder Scrolls games made.

Fallout 3 did extremely well on 360 and PS3 yet the first two games were only on PC. A good game is a good game. Mass Effect 2 is a great game. And you can bet the bank Sony is going to advertise the hell out of this game with Kevin Butler.

The Elder Scrolls IV and Fallout 3 aren't realy sequels to the others, they just have the same name.

whaaaa?

yeah they are. They are all part of the same universe. Or are you trying to say that you don't need to play ES1,2 and 3 nor do you have to play Fallout 1 and 2 to enjoy ESIV and FO3 cause in their own right they are great games despite the fact you're missing so much back story to those games?

Hmmm sounds familiar

Ok, I will rephrase it. You dont need to play TES3 to know the TESIV story, same with Fallout.

Same with ME2.

The amount of own you put into that single post is unbearable.

gamer22 wrote:

TheJubJub5721 wrote:

gamer22 wrote:

TheJubJub5721 wrote:

gamer22 wrote:

TheJubJub5721 wrote:

gow wrote:Mass Effect 2 will be a success on the PS3 with out doubt I'm etismating about 1 million copies sold within the first 2 months. As TRF has said the whole Mass Effect experience will be better on the 360 and PC but just mass effect 2 will be better on the PS3

I can barely see it reaching 1 million lifetime, because without the first I doubt it will sell well.

Elder Scrolls IV sold over a million with a fraction of the fanbase back in 2007. Keep in mind that was the first entry to the franchise. There were three Elder Scrolls games made.

Fallout 3 did extremely well on 360 and PS3 yet the first two games were only on PC. A good game is a good game. Mass Effect 2 is a great game. And you can bet the bank Sony is going to advertise the hell out of this game with Kevin Butler.

The Elder Scrolls IV and Fallout 3 aren't realy sequels to the others, they just have the same name.

whaaaa?

yeah they are. They are all part of the same universe. Or are you trying to say that you don't need to play ES1,2 and 3 nor do you have to play Fallout 1 and 2 to enjoy ESIV and FO3 cause in their own right they are great games despite the fact you're missing so much back story to those games?

Hmmm sounds familiar

Ok, I will rephrase it. You dont need to play TES3 to know the TESIV story, same with Fallout.

Same with ME2.

*sigh* You will never get it.... ME is a story driven series. ME2 is a direct story sequal. TES3's story does not continue into TESIV

gamer22 wrote:

TheJubJub5721 wrote:

gamer22 wrote:

TheJubJub5721 wrote:

gamer22 wrote:

TheJubJub5721 wrote:

gow wrote:Mass Effect 2 will be a success on the PS3 with out doubt I'm etismating about 1 million copies sold within the first 2 months. As TRF has said the whole Mass Effect experience will be better on the 360 and PC but just mass effect 2 will be better on the PS3

I can barely see it reaching 1 million lifetime, because without the first I doubt it will sell well.

Elder Scrolls IV sold over a million with a fraction of the fanbase back in 2007. Keep in mind that was the first entry to the franchise. There were three Elder Scrolls games made.

Fallout 3 did extremely well on 360 and PS3 yet the first two games were only on PC. A good game is a good game. Mass Effect 2 is a great game. And you can bet the bank Sony is going to advertise the hell out of this game with Kevin Butler.

The Elder Scrolls IV and Fallout 3 aren't realy sequels to the others, they just have the same name.

whaaaa?

yeah they are. They are all part of the same universe. Or are you trying to say that you don't need to play ES1,2 and 3 nor do you have to play Fallout 1 and 2 to enjoy ESIV and FO3 cause in their own right they are great games despite the fact you're missing so much back story to those games?

Hmmm sounds familiar

Ok, I will rephrase it. You dont need to play TES3 to know the TESIV story, same with Fallout.

Same with ME2.

There's a difference. TES and Fallout both involve new characters in every game, with nothing more than a few references to past titles. Mass Effect 2 carries over characters, relationships, etc. into the second game. No, it isn't absolutely necessary to play the first game, but it helps immensely.

But I don't need to play it to know it.

SlySonji™ wrote:But I don't need to play it to know it.

If you didnt look up the story or hear about it any where, yes you would have to play the first to completely understand the second.

TheJubJub5721 wrote:

SlySonji wrote:But I don't need to play it to know it.

If you didnt look up the story or hear about it any where, yes you would have to play the first to completely understand the second.

That's what BioWare said

SlySonji wrote:

TheJubJub5721 wrote:

SlySonji wrote:But I don't need to play it to know it.

If you didnt look up the story or hear about it any where, yes you would have to play the first to completely understand the second.

That's what BioWare said

For the PS3 version? Yeah they will probably have a cutscene explaining it... Playing the game > cutscene

TheJubJub5721 wrote:

SlySonji wrote:

TheJubJub5721 wrote:

SlySonji wrote:But I don't need to play it to know it.

If you didnt look up the story or hear about it any where, yes you would have to play the first to completely understand the second.

That's what BioWare said

For the PS3 version? Yeah they will probably have a cutscene explaining it... Playing the game > cutscene

That isn't what you said though.