Halo Reach Changes Vs. COD Changes [this gen]

by **Zillah** Thu Apr 29, 2010 12:20 am

KEY:
Halo Reach - Cod4 and up .

New Game Modes - New Game Modes
JetPacks - New Killstreaks
Better Graphics - SLIGHTLY better graphics
new colors - new colors
new weapons - new weapons
new story - new story
Different Game Mechanics - Heartbeat Sensors, Thermal Scopes, Cold-Blooded .

See much of a difference?

by **TRF** Thu Apr 29, 2010 12:23 am

Don't compare Halo to Cal of Duty. It's not nearly as repackaged. Halo: Reach offers new weapons, armor, game types, game modes, and Bungie also added weapon loadouts and armor abilities.

Also, heartbeat sensors and thermal scopes do not count as different game mechanics. They're basically just new scopes, nothing game-changing.

by **Zillah** Thu Apr 29, 2010 12:26 am

TRF wrote:Don't compare Halo to Cal of Duty. It's not nearly as repackaged. Halo: Reach offers new weapons, armor, game types, game modes, and Bungie also added weapon loadouts and armor abilities.

Also, heartbeat sensors and thermal scopes do not count as different game mechanics. They're basically just new scopes, nothing game-changing.

- ok, they change the game up and the tactics you have to have to get around them, but fair enough .

Halo 2 wasn't repackaged like 1?

ok . also, armor?
new characters on MW2 .
you can't really get around this one TRF . Wink

by **TRF** Thu Apr 29, 2010 12:30 am

K-Zillah wrote:
TRF wrote:Don't compare Halo to Cal of Duty. It's not nearly as repackaged. Halo: Reach offers new weapons, armor, game types, game modes, and Bungie also added weapon loadouts and armor abilities.

Also, heartbeat sensors and thermal scopes do not count as different game mechanics. They're basically just new scopes, nothing game-changing.

- ok, they change the game up and the tactics you have to have to get around them, but fair enough .

Halo 2 wasn't repackaged like 1?

ok . also, armor?
new characters on MW2 .
you can't really get around this one TRF .

The armor is much more customizable. Halo 2 was NOT repackaged. First of all, it went from open-world to linear, and multiplayer was added. And what do you mean by new characters in MW2? There were new story characters, but that's not the equivalent of more customization in Reach.

by **Zillah** Thu Apr 29, 2010 12:39 am

TRF wrote:
The armor is much more customizable. Halo 2 was NOT repackaged. First of all, it went from open-world to linear, and multiplayer was added. And what do you mean by new characters in MW2? There were new story characters, but that's not the equivalent of more customization in Reach.

- it has more customization, no lie, but, you're saying it like no other shooter has done what Reach done .

by **TRF** Thu Apr 29, 2010 12:47 am

K-Zillah wrote:
TRF wrote:
The armor is much more customizable. Halo 2 was NOT repackaged. First of all, it went from open-world to linear, and multiplayer was added. And what do you mean by new characters in MW2? There were new story characters, but that's not the equivalent of more customization in Reach.

- it has more customization, no lie, but, you're saying it like no other shooter has done what Reach done .

So what? You're changing the argument. Reach doesn't revolutionize FPS, but we're debating over whether Halo is recycled, not about whether Reach revolutionizes FPS. Killzone doesn't revolutionize FPS. Uncharted doesn't revolutionize TPS. God of War doesn't revolutionize hack n' slash.

by **Zillah** Thu Apr 29, 2010 12:51 am

- Uncharted 2 PERFECTED TPS .
Same as God Of War III perfected Hack N' Slash .

But, my bad .

Reach is nothing new . that's all i'm saying .

by **TRF** Thu Apr 29, 2010 12:55 am

K-Zillah wrote:- Uncharted 2 PERFECTED TPS .
Same as God Of War III perfected Hack N' Slash .

But, my bad .

Reach is nothing new . that's all i'm saying .

It's new for the Halo franchise, which is the idea that you originally disagreed with. Uncharted 2 was far from original, BTW. It did nothing new in terms of story, nothing new in terms of platforming, and nothing new in terms of TPS. It had some awesome set pieces, but that's about it.

Let's not change the subject, though. Halo: Reach is not repackaged, I've already provided the reasons why.

by **Zillah** Thu Apr 29, 2010 12:57 am

TRF wrote:
K-Zillah wrote:- Uncharted 2 PERFECTED TPS .
Same as God Of War III perfected Hack N' Slash .

But, my bad .

Reach is nothing new . that's all i'm saying .
It's new for the Halo franchise, which is the idea that you originally disagreed with. Uncharted 2 was far from original, BTW. It did nothing new in terms of story, nothing new in terms of platforming, and nothing new in terms of TPS. It had some awesome set pieces, but that's about it.

Let's not change the subject, though. Halo: Reach is not repackaged, I've already provided the reasons why.

- It still looks the same .

If you look at the gameplay, that shit looks JUST LIKE halo 3 .

by itsBarbz Thu Apr 29, 2010 1:02 am

Halo is teh suxorz...COD is a little less suxorz

by **TRF** Thu Apr 29, 2010 1:08 am

K-Zillah wrote:
If you look at the gameplay, that shit looks JUST LIKE halo 3 .

You're blind then, bro. Sorry, that's really my only argument. I can't argue in favor of something that's so blatantly there.

by Angelus the Wraith Thu Apr 29, 2010 1:25 am

itsBarbz wrote:Halo is teh suxorz...COD is a little less suxorz

Your logic makes no sense, Barfz.
KZ2>MAG>Halo>CoD

by **TRF** Thu Apr 29, 2010 1:26 am

Angelus the Wraith wrote:
itsBarbz wrote:Halo is teh suxorz...COD is a little less suxorz

Your logic makes no sense, Barfz.
KZ2>MAG>Halo>CoD

I agree with you on your assessment of Barbz's logic, but your inequality is incorrect.

by Angelus the Wraith Thu Apr 29, 2010 1:28 am

TRF wrote:
Angelus the Wraith wrote:
itsBarbz wrote:Halo is teh suxorz...COD is a little less suxorz

Your logic makes no sense, Barfz.
KZ2>MAG>Halo>CoD
I agree with you on your assessment of Barbz's logic, but your inequality is incorrect.

KZ2+MAG>Halo+CoD
KZ2+MAG

by **Zillah** Thu Apr 29, 2010 1:29 am

Angelus the Wraith wrote:
TRF wrote:
Angelus the Wraith wrote:
itsBarbz wrote:Halo is teh suxorz...COD is a little less suxorz

Your logic makes no sense, Barfz.
KZ2>MAG>Halo>CoD
I agree with you on your assessment of Barbz's logic, but your inequality is incorrect.

KZ2+MAG>Halo+CoD
KZ2+MAG

- Comparing Killzone 2 to Mag is not right .

It's like comparing gay to bisexuals, sure, both of them are generically the same, but, one is better. Wink

by **TRF** Thu Apr 29, 2010 1:32 am

K-Zillah wrote:
Angelus the Wraith wrote:
TRF wrote:
Angelus the Wraith wrote:
itsBarbz wrote:Halo is teh suxorz...COD is a little less suxorz

Your logic makes no sense, Barfz.
KZ2>MAG>Halo>CoD
I agree with you on your assessment of Barbz's logic, but your inequality is incorrect.

KZ2+MAG>Halo+CoD
KZ2+MAG

- Comparing Killzone 2 to Mag is not right .

It's like comparing gay to bisexuals, sure, both of them are generically the same, but, one is better.

That's a terrible analogy. It's like comparing horse crap to giraffe crap. BOTH ARE CRAP.

by **Zillah** Thu Apr 29, 2010 1:33 am

- but, pony shit is BETTER!
XD

by **TRF** Thu Apr 29, 2010 1:34 am

So have we come to an agreement that Halo: Reach is gonna rock and it's not recycled?

by **Zillah** Thu Apr 29, 2010 1:36 am

TRF wrote:So have we come to an agreement that Halo: Reach is gonna rock and it's not recycled?

- Nope . Go to hellhound's video . it looks like Halo 3: ODST 2 .

by solidstudios Thu Apr 29, 2010 1:40 am

i honestly don't think we're ever going to convince TRF that Halo: Reach is repackaged with a few differences. just give up Zillah *sighs* i mean whats the point anymore? WE CAN'T DO IT XD

by **TRF** Thu Apr 29, 2010 1:52 am

K-Zillah wrote:
TRF wrote:So have we come to an agreement that Halo: Reach is gonna rock and it's not recycled?

- Nope . Go to hellhound's video . it looks like Halo 3: ODST 2 .

I've seen it. Sure, the graphics aren't hugely updated, but they don't look terrible and I know for a fact that the game will be different.

solidstudios wrote:i honestly don't think we're ever going to convince TRF that Halo: Reach is repackaged with a few differences. just give up Zillah *sighs* i mean whats the point anymore? WE CAN'T DO IT XD

You can't do it because you guys are wrong.

by solidstudios Thu Apr 29, 2010 1:55 am

TRF wrote:
K-Zillah wrote:
TRF wrote:So have we come to an agreement that Halo: Reach is gonna rock and it's not recycled?

- Nope . Go to hellhound's video . it looks like Halo 3: ODST 2 .
I've seen it. Sure, the graphics aren't hugely updated, but they don't look terrible and I know for a fact that the game will be different.

solidstudios wrote:i honestly don't think we're ever going to convince TRF that Halo: Reach is repackaged with a few differences. just give up Zillah *sighs* i mean whats the point anymore? WE CAN'T DO IT XD
You can't do it because you guys are wrong.

hellhound said it perfectly. ill let Zillah take the argument again

by **TRF** Thu Apr 29, 2010 2:04 am

solidstudios wrote:
TRF wrote:
K-Zillah wrote:
TRF wrote:So have we come to an agreement that Halo: Reach is gonna rock and it's not recycled?

- Nope . Go to hellhound's video . it looks like Halo 3: ODST 2 .
I've seen it. Sure, the graphics aren't hugely updated, but they don't look terrible and I know for a fact that the game will be different.

solidstudios wrote:i honestly don't think we're ever going to convince TRF that Halo: Reach is repackaged with a few differences. just give up Zillah *sighs* i mean whats the point anymore? WE CAN'T DO IT XD
You can't do it because you guys are wrong.
hellhound said it perfectly. ill let Zillah take the argument again

I've got my work cut out for me. I've already mentioned the new features that have been added, they are significant changes. I don't know what much more I can say.

by Reaper Fri Apr 30, 2010 3:27 pm

TRF wrote:
K-Zillah wrote:- Uncharted 2 PERFECTED TPS .
Same as God Of War III perfected Hack N' Slash .

But, my bad .

Reach is nothing new . that's all i'm saying .
It's new for the Halo franchise, which is the idea that you originally disagreed with. Uncharted 2 was far from original, BTW. It did nothing new in terms of story, nothing new in terms of platforming, and nothing new in terms of TPS. It had some awesome set pieces, but that's about it.

Let's not change the subject, though. Halo: Reach is not repackaged, I've already provided the reasons why.

Perhaps, but it was the first game to get all those factors right in the same game.

by igame Fri Apr 30, 2010 9:14 pm

i think halo reach added enough elements to make the gameplay more dynamic than halo 3

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