Re: Halo:Reach - Overhaul

by **Zillah** Sat Apr 24, 2010 6:13 pm

Freemon34 wrote:I'm laughing at TRF and Zillah hypocracy.

- *facepalm*

we're hypocritical .

dude, you report whatever iSay back to you're XBR yet i'm hypocritical . -_-
watch out, you're freemon'ing .

by Angelus the Wraith Sat Apr 24, 2010 11:25 pm

Sir.Zillah wrote:
Freemon34 wrote:I'm laughing at TRF and Zillah hypocracy.

- *facepalm*

we're hypocritical .

dude, you report whatever iSay back to you're XBR yet i'm hypocritical . -_-
watch out, you're Semen34'ing .

All three of you are hypocrites!
Except Zillah and TRF.
Zillah is a Hypello
and TRF is an admin

Also, will Master Chief die in Reach? Cause he must be getting pretty old.

by Freemon34 Sun Apr 25, 2010 12:59 am

Angelus the Wraith wrote:
Sir.Zillah wrote:
Freemon34 wrote:I'm laughing at TRF and Zillah hypocracy.

- *facepalm*

we're hypocritical .

dude, you report whatever iSay back to you're XBR yet i'm hypocritical . -_-
watch out, you're Semen34'ing .

All three of you are hypocrites!
Except Zillah and TRF.
Zillah is a Hypello
and TRF is an admin

Also, will Master Chief die in Reach? Cause he must be getting pretty old.

No, John(Aka as Master chief in the other games) doesn't die. Reach takes place months to hours before Halo 1 starts.

by TWILIGHTRULEZZZ Sun Apr 25, 2010 3:11 am

Back to the subject at hand...

Halo 1,2,3 ODLC Reach, are all the same just a new weapon and the same lifeless, emotionless character ( apart from Reach and ODLC ) Have you seen the new trailer for reach it will be updated graphics, new maps, ( they are using the same engine ? ) and a few new weapons AND A JET PACK OMGGG !! THAT HAS NEVER BEEN DONE BEFORE ( Warhawk ) it the same old stuff with a little more content other than that it brings nothing new to the FPS genre as Halo 1 did in many ways. But will sell millions !

Also on a side note if my d**k had Halo written on it... it would sell millions as well !

by **TRF** Mon Apr 26, 2010 10:50 am

Sir.Zillah wrote:
TRF wrote:
Do you really expect Bungie to drastically change the gameplay of Halo? God of War never really changed, Ratchet & Clank never really changed, Uncharted never really changed.

I'll admit, Halo 3 was somewhat similar to Halo 2, but Bungie is really taking it up a notch with Halo: Reach.

- Uncharted 2 : Story Driven, the game shouldn't be changed or it'll disrupt the story .
God Of War : Same thing, new looks, Perfect story
Ratchet & Clank : New Weapons, New Worlds/Environments, New Enemies, New Looks, and the game is a single player game [excluding Deadlocked,ETC.]

So, by your logic, you're saying, Heavy Rain 2 should be changed?

That's not what I'm saying all. I don't care about story, but it seems like when Bungie slaps new features on a Halo game it's "recycled" even though God of War and Uncharted and R&C have been the same gameplay-wise for years. I wouldn't expect them to change them at all, nor would I expect Bungie to drastically change the gameplay of Halo (even though they more or less are for Reach).

by **Zillah** Mon Apr 26, 2010 7:24 pm

- Just like iThink Call Of Duty should be changed, like battlefield is flexible .

new stuff are: new game modes, new colors [by that, iMean, new armors, weapons, takedowns, etc] .
It's still a great game, down get me wrong, but it has no potential to be greater than Halo1 . the base they are building on .

Bungie doesn't impress me, that's all i'm saying .

by **TRF** Mon Apr 26, 2010 9:10 pm

Sir.Zillah wrote:- Just like iThink Call Of Duty should be changed, like battlefield is flexible .

new stuff are: new game modes, new colors [by that, iMean, new armors, weapons, takedowns, etc] .
It's still a great game, down get me wrong, but it has no potential to be greater than Halo1 . the base they are building on .

Bungie doesn't impress me, that's all i'm saying .

All I'm saying is that people complain about Bungie recycling things, yet most games are recycled because the core gameplay doesn't change.

And Freemon, how am I being a hypocrite? I'd love to hear this.

by pspvampire Mon Apr 26, 2010 10:25 pm

Reaper wrote:Whats different apart from the graphics and skins

addition of a jetpack and 3rd person stealth kill?

I'm not here to defend 360 but you've gotta understand, the whole gameplay's new.
Brand new engine.
Better graphics.
New vehicles.
New weapon designs.
Whole new gameplay elements like armour upgrades, Stealth kills, rolling, sprint, jetpacks, etc.
Obviously new story.
Brand new locations.
Completely improved multiplayer with way more game modes, better matchmaking, etc
Customisation.
And those are just a few things. There's loads of more stuff I've missed out.

by **Zillah** Mon Apr 26, 2010 11:47 pm

- The gameplay is new?

You didn't see the gameplay .
First off, IT'S THE SAME ENGINE .

The graphics aren't a huge improvement over other games, and over halo period, even though it's nice .

Everything else you mentioned, is what every other game does .
It's a great, AAA game, but, it's not GOTY quality, or worth the hype people give it .
It's just like the next FPS, new colors[by that iMean, Armor, weapons, etc,.]
That didn't do anything any other game wouldn't do .

by **TRF** Tue Apr 27, 2010 12:00 am

Sir.Zillah wrote:- The gameplay is new?

You didn't see the gameplay .
First off, IT'S THE SAME ENGINE .

The graphics aren't a huge improvement over other games, and over halo period, even though it's nice .

Everything else you mentioned, is what every other game does .
It's a great, AAA game, but, it's not GOTY quality, or worth the hype people give it .
It's just like the next FPS, new colors[by that iMean, Armor, weapons, etc,.]
That didn't do anything any other game wouldn't do .

Same engine, but Bungie really changed up the gameplay in Reach. I don't get how you don't see the changes. True, it may not do anything innovative when it comes to the FPS genre, but neither do God of War or Uncharted.

by **Zillah** Tue Apr 27, 2010 12:04 am

TRF wrote:
Same engine, but Bungie really changed up the gameplay in Reach. I don't get how you don't see the changes. True, it may not do anything innovative when it comes to the FPS genre, but neither do God of War or Uncharted.

- they don't....ok .

we're talking about halo .

by **TRF** Tue Apr 27, 2010 12:09 am

Sir.Zillah wrote:
TRF wrote:
Same engine, but Bungie really changed up the gameplay in Reach. I don't get how you don't see the changes. True, it may not do anything innovative when it comes to the FPS genre, but neither do God of War or Uncharted.

- they don't....ok .

we're talking about halo .

Don't get me wrong, God of War and Uncharted are both fantastic, but Uncharted is basically Indiana Jones the TPS and God of War isn't the first hack n' slash. Execution is much more important than originality. I'd rather have a good, unoriginal game than a terrible game that did something completely new.

by HellJumper Sat May 01, 2010 2:30 am

Reach is the 5th Halo shooter out there and zillah expects it to be revolutionary to a very popular genre......

Lol,zillah had this debate with me and some other members on the XR chatbox.he said that "Halo Reach being the same is just his oppinion".then a member said "in some cases you cant use oppinion,it would be like saying a jew is the same as a Nazi and then saying it's just your oppinion"

Then zillah admits that his oppinion of Halo Reach is very biased and incorrect but its still his oppinion

by AnAsianKid Sat May 01, 2010 12:53 pm

Meh I'll try out the beta and see if im impressed.

But I did hear alot of BS things about the jetpacks.

by **Zillah** Sat May 01, 2010 2:03 pm

HellJumper wrote:Reach is the 5th Halo shooter out there and zillah expects it to be revolutionary to a very popular genre......

Lol,zillah had this debate with me and some other members on the XR chatbox.he said that "Halo Reach being the same is just his oppinion".then a member said "in some cases you cant use oppinion,it would be like saying a jew is the same as a Nazi and then saying it's just your oppinion"

Then zillah admits that his oppinion of Halo Reach is very biased and incorrect but its still his oppinion

- So, let me get this straight:

YOU GUYS DON'T ALLOW TROLLS, OR ELSE YOU BAN THEM, YET, YOU TROLL HERE, WE DO NOTHING .
and, that is my opinion .

iSaw the beta now, and it sorta changed my opinion .
still nothing that any other FPS wouldn't do .

by **TRF** Sat May 01, 2010 2:05 pm

AnAsianKid wrote:Meh I'll try out the beta and see if im impressed.

But I did hear alot of BS things about the jetpacks.

What have you heard about the jetpacks? I've really only heard general feedback, nothing too specific.

K-Zillah wrote:
HellJumper wrote:Reach is the 5th Halo shooter out there and zillah expects it to be revolutionary to a very popular genre......

Lol,zillah had this debate with me and some other members on the XR chatbox.he said that "Halo Reach being the same is just his oppinion".then a member said "in some cases you cant use oppinion,it would be like saying a jew is the same as a Nazi and then saying it's just your oppinion"

Then zillah admits that his oppinion of Halo Reach is very biased and incorrect but its still his oppinion

- So, let me get this straight:

YOU GUYS DON'T ALLOW TROLLS, OR ELSE YOU BAN THEM, YET, YOU TROLL HERE, WE DO NOTHING .
and, that is my opinion .

iSaw the beta now, and it sorta changed my opinion .
still nothing that any other FPS wouldn't do .

Does any game do anything new nowadays? Refer to the games I've mentioned: Uncharted, God of War, etc. None of them are innovative or completely original, but what they do, they do right. Halo: Reach is a sci-fi shooter, albeit unoriginal, done right.

by **Zillah** Sat May 01, 2010 2:11 pm

- Like you said, this isn't ABOUT those games, this is Halo .

by **TRF** Sat May 01, 2010 2:14 pm

K-Zillah wrote:- Like you said, this isn't ABOUT those games, this is Halo .

I know. I'm simply pointing out that while Halo doesn't do anything new for the shooter genre, many games don't do anything for their genres. So it's not like Halo is this special case where it's a disappointment to the genre and a step back for first-person shooters.

by **Zillah** Sat May 01, 2010 2:34 pm

- For the Top Rated 360 Exclusive, it should be .

iDon't mean best .

by **TRF** Sat May 01, 2010 3:23 pm

K-Zillah wrote:- For the Top Rated 360 Exclusive, it should be .

iDon't mean best .

Why should it be? Like I said, Uncharted doesn't change anything, God of War doesn't, so why is Halo not allowed to be Halo?

There are sufficient changes in my mind to warrant a sequel.

by Angelus the Wraith Sat May 01, 2010 4:38 pm

TRF wrote:
K-Zillah wrote:- For the Top Rated 360 Exclusive, it should be .

iDon't mean best .
Why should it be? Like I said, Uncharted doesn't change anything, God of War doesn't, so why is Halo not allowed to be Halo?

There are sufficient changes in my mind to warrant a sequel.

I think Zillah wants Bungie to come out with "olaH" instead. A game that takes nothing from halo, but is still part of the series.

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