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Final Fantasy XIII-2 - Debut Trailer
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Consider Halo Wars. Halo Wars is a spin-off because it goes away from the usual gameplay and story of Halo. Final Fantasy doesn't have a usual gameplay or story.</div></div></div><div class="postprofile" id="profile29513"><!-- div class="online2"></div--><dl><dt><img loading="lazy" src="https://2img.net/u/2511/11/70/79/avatars/12-26.gif" alt="TRF" style="max-width: 150px; max-height: 150px" /><br /><strong style="font-size:1.2em"><span style="color:#FF0000"><strong>TRF</strong></span></strong></dt><dd>Administrator<br /><img src="https://2img.net/h/assasin-deedz.ucoz.net/ranktest/23mooeq.png" alt="Administrator" title="Administrator" loading="lazy" /><br /></dd><dd class="dd_award left"></dd><dd class="award_more"></dd><dd><br /></dd><dd><span class="label"><span style="color:#888888;">Posts</span> : </span> 2766<br /><span class="label"><span style="color:#888888;">Join date</span> : </span> 2010-03-17<br /></dd><dd><br /></dd><dd> <a href="http://www.ign.com/blogs/Z0mb33Sl4y3r/" title="Visit poster's website" target="_blank" rel="nofollow"><img src="https://2img.net/i/fa/prosilver/icon_contact_www.gif" alt="http://www.ign.com/blogs/Z0mb33Sl4y3r/" /></a></dd></dl></div><div class="clear"></div><div class="fa_like_div"><p class="fa_like_list" style="display: none;"></p><button class="rep-button " data-href="" data-href-rm=""><svg width="13px" height="13px" viewBox="0 0 1792 1792" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><path d="M320 1344q0-26-19-45t-45-19q-27 0-45.5 19t-18.5 45q0 27 18.5 45.5t45.5 18.5q26 0 45-18.5t19-45.5zm160-512v640q0 26-19 45t-45 19h-288q-26 0-45-19t-19-45v-640q0-26 19-45t45-19h288q26 0 45 19t19 45zm1184 0q0 86-55 149 15 44 15 76 3 76-43 137 17 56 0 117-15 57-54 94 9 112-49 181-64 76-197 78h-129q-66 0-144-15.5t-121.5-29-120.5-39.5q-123-43-158-44-26-1-45-19.5t-19-44.5v-641q0-25 18-43.5t43-20.5q24-2 76-59t101-121q68-87 101-120 18-18 31-48t17.5-48.5 13.5-60.5q7-39 12.5-61t19.5-52 34-50q19-19 45-19 46 0 82.5 10.5t60 26 40 40.5 24 45 12 50 5 45 .5 39q0 38-9.5 76t-19 60-27.5 56q-3 6-10 18t-11 22-8 24h277q78 0 135 57t57 135z" fill="#666"/></svg><span>Like</span><span class="rep-nb" style="display:none;"></span></button><button class="rep-button " data-href="" data-href-rm=""><svg width="13px" height="13px" viewBox="0 0 1792 1792" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><path d="M320 576q0 26-19 45t-45 19q-27 0-45.5-19t-18.5-45q0-27 18.5-45.5t45.5-18.5q26 0 45 18.5t19 45.5zm160 512v-640q0-26-19-45t-45-19h-288q-26 0-45 19t-19 45v640q0 26 19 45t45 19h288q26 0 45-19t19-45zm1129-149q55 61 55 149-1 78-57.5 135t-134.5 57h-277q4 14 8 24t11 22 10 18q18 37 27 57t19 58.5 10 76.5q0 24-.5 39t-5 45-12 50-24 45-40 40.5-60 26-82.5 10.5q-26 0-45-19-20-20-34-50t-19.5-52-12.5-61q-9-42-13.5-60.5t-17.5-48.5-31-48q-33-33-101-120-49-64-101-121t-76-59q-25-2-43-20.5t-18-43.5v-641q0-26 19-44.5t45-19.5q35-1 158-44 77-26 120.5-39.5t121.5-29 144-15.5h129q133 2 197 78 58 69 49 181 39 37 54 94 17 61 0 117 46 61 43 137 0 32-15 76z" fill="#666"/></svg><span>Dislike</span><span class="rep-nb" style="display:none;"></span></button></div><p class="right"><a href="#top"><img src="https://2img.net/s/t/16/97/87/i_up_arrow.gif" alt="Back to top" loading="lazy" /></a> <a href="#bottom"><img src="https://2img.net/s/t/16/97/87/i_down_arrow.gif" alt="Go down" loading="lazy" /></a></p><span class="corners-bottom"><span></span></span></div></div><div id="p29522" class="post row1 post--29522" style=""><div class="inner"><span class="corners-top"><span></span></span><div style="position: relative; top: -30px; width: 1px;" id="29522"></div><div class="postbody"><ul class="profile-icons"><li></li><li></li><li></li><li></li><li></li><li></li><li></li></ul><h2 class="topic-title"><img src="https://2img.net/i/empty.gif" alt="Final Fantasy XIII-2 - Debut Trailer Empty" loading="lazy" /> <a href="/t2768-final-fantasy-xiii-2-debut-trailer#29522">Re: Final Fantasy XIII-2 - Debut Trailer</a></h2><p class="author"><img src="https://2img.net/s/t/16/97/87/i_icon_minipost.gif" alt="Post" title="Post" /> by SlySonji™ Wed Jan 19, 2011 8:50 pm</p><div class="clearfix"></div><div style="display:none"></div><div class="content clearfix"><div><blockquote><div><cite>TRF wrote:</cite><blockquote><div><cite>adro wrote:</cite><blockquote><div><cite>TRF wrote:</cite><blockquote><div><cite>adro wrote:</cite><blockquote><div><cite>TRF wrote:</cite><blockquote><div><cite>igame wrote:</cite>Am i the only one that didn't think FFXIII wasn't so bad of a game as many say? </div></blockquote>It's a great game and I'm convinced that people would enjoy it more if the game wasn't called "Final Fantasy", or at least had a spin-off name <strong><u>(even though there's really no such thing as a Final Fantasy spin-off)</u></strong>.</div></blockquote><br />FF Crystal Chronicles, Dissidia FF, Final Fantasy Tactics, Final Fantasy Fables, Dirge of Cerberus : FFVII... <img src="https://2img.net/i/fa/i/smiles/icon_rolleyes.gif" alt="Rolling Eyes" longdesc="11" /> </div></blockquote>C'mon, what about those games makes them spin-offs?</div></blockquote><br />dissidia is a fighting game, dirge of cerberus is a shooter, FF Fables is party game... what doesn't make them spin-offs??</div></blockquote>Considering every game in the series is different, there's no way to say "this one is a main game" and "this one is a spin-off" since they're all kind of spin-offs. Consider Halo Wars. Halo Wars is a spin-off because it goes away from the usual gameplay and story of Halo. Final Fantasy doesn't have a usual gameplay or story.</div></blockquote><br />This.<br /><br />The title ''Final Fantasy'' is only slapped on there for sales purposes. Each game is so different that they're practically different games entirely.<br /><br />Example: Final Fantasy Versus XIII could be called 'Versus' and no one would realize it was a Final Fantasy game.</div></div></div><div class="postprofile" id="profile29522"><!-- div class="online2"></div--><dl><dt><img loading="lazy" src="https://2img.net/h/www.freesmileys.org/emoticons/emoticon-anime-024.gif" alt="SlySonji™" style="max-width: 150px; max-height: 150px" /><br /><strong style="font-size:1.2em">SlySonji™</strong></dt><dd>PS3 Nation Greats<br /></dd><dd class="dd_award left"></dd><dd class="award_more"></dd><dd><br /></dd><dd><span class="label"><span style="color:#888888;">Posts</span> : </span> 2051<br /><span class="label"><span style="color:#888888;">Join date</span> : </span> 2010-05-25<br /></dd><dd><br /></dd><dd> </dd></dl></div><div class="clear"></div><div class="fa_like_div"><p class="fa_like_list" style="display: none;"></p><button class="rep-button " data-href="" data-href-rm=""><svg width="13px" height="13px" viewBox="0 0 1792 1792" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><path d="M320 1344q0-26-19-45t-45-19q-27 0-45.5 19t-18.5 45q0 27 18.5 45.5t45.5 18.5q26 0 45-18.5t19-45.5zm160-512v640q0 26-19 45t-45 19h-288q-26 0-45-19t-19-45v-640q0-26 19-45t45-19h288q26 0 45 19t19 45zm1184 0q0 86-55 149 15 44 15 76 3 76-43 137 17 56 0 117-15 57-54 94 9 112-49 181-64 76-197 78h-129q-66 0-144-15.5t-121.5-29-120.5-39.5q-123-43-158-44-26-1-45-19.5t-19-44.5v-641q0-25 18-43.5t43-20.5q24-2 76-59t101-121q68-87 101-120 18-18 31-48t17.5-48.5 13.5-60.5q7-39 12.5-61t19.5-52 34-50q19-19 45-19 46 0 82.5 10.5t60 26 40 40.5 24 45 12 50 5 45 .5 39q0 38-9.5 76t-19 60-27.5 56q-3 6-10 18t-11 22-8 24h277q78 0 135 57t57 135z" fill="#666"/></svg><span>Like</span><span class="rep-nb" style="display:none;"></span></button><button class="rep-button " data-href="" data-href-rm=""><svg width="13px" height="13px" viewBox="0 0 1792 1792" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><path d="M320 576q0 26-19 45t-45 19q-27 0-45.5-19t-18.5-45q0-27 18.5-45.5t45.5-18.5q26 0 45 18.5t19 45.5zm160 512v-640q0-26-19-45t-45-19h-288q-26 0-45 19t-19 45v640q0 26 19 45t45 19h288q26 0 45-19t19-45zm1129-149q55 61 55 149-1 78-57.5 135t-134.5 57h-277q4 14 8 24t11 22 10 18q18 37 27 57t19 58.5 10 76.5q0 24-.5 39t-5 45-12 50-24 45-40 40.5-60 26-82.5 10.5q-26 0-45-19-20-20-34-50t-19.5-52-12.5-61q-9-42-13.5-60.5t-17.5-48.5-31-48q-33-33-101-120-49-64-101-121t-76-59q-25-2-43-20.5t-18-43.5v-641q0-26 19-44.5t45-19.5q35-1 158-44 77-26 120.5-39.5t121.5-29 144-15.5h129q133 2 197 78 58 69 49 181 39 37 54 94 17 61 0 117 46 61 43 137 0 32-15 76z" fill="#666"/></svg><span>Dislike</span><span class="rep-nb" style="display:none;"></span></button></div><p class="right"><a href="#top"><img src="https://2img.net/s/t/16/97/87/i_up_arrow.gif" alt="Back to top" loading="lazy" /></a> <a href="#bottom"><img src="https://2img.net/s/t/16/97/87/i_down_arrow.gif" alt="Go down" loading="lazy" /></a></p><span class="corners-bottom"><span></span></span></div></div><div id="p29531" class="post row2 post--29531" style=""><div class="inner"><span class="corners-top"><span></span></span><div style="position: relative; top: -30px; width: 1px;" id="29531"></div><div class="postbody"><ul class="profile-icons"><li></li><li></li><li></li><li></li><li></li><li></li><li></li></ul><h2 class="topic-title"><img src="https://2img.net/i/empty.gif" alt="Final Fantasy XIII-2 - Debut Trailer Empty" loading="lazy" /> <a href="/t2768-final-fantasy-xiii-2-debut-trailer#29531">Re: Final Fantasy XIII-2 - Debut Trailer</a></h2><p class="author"><img src="https://2img.net/s/t/16/97/87/i_icon_minipost.gif" alt="Post" title="Post" /> by yonny616 Wed Jan 19, 2011 10:07 pm</p><div class="clearfix"></div><div style="display:none"></div><div class="content clearfix"><div>how can there be a FF XIII-2? 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Consider Halo Wars. Halo Wars is a spin-off because it goes away from the usual gameplay and story of Halo. Final Fantasy doesn't have a usual gameplay or story.</div></blockquote><br />most jrpg's are like that, every game in the series is a different from the previous one changing some aspect adding others, but maintain some that make it unique. Wild Arms, dragon quest, persona... all are like that.<br /><br />All FF's have very similair universe, the storytelling are very similair too, the designs are very similair I mean the cities, the characters and all...<br />and the gameplay is similair and usual , I mean all the games had the same combat system, untill XI where it changed followed by XII and XIII who added their touch to it.<br />and in addition of the classic leveling-up system wich is in all of them (except XIII -_-) their's another one in FFX it's called "Sphere Grid", in FFVII it's the matéria, FFXIII it's the crystarium... and all of them are the same thing just with minor changes.<br /><br />and spin-off are basicly the ones who have nothing to do with the major ones, for example dissidia is a fighting game (how's that not a spin-off)...<br /><br /><blockquote><div>Final Fantasy Versus XIII could be called 'Versus' and no one would realize it was a Final Fantasy game.<br /></div></blockquote><br />acctually versus XIII seems like a spin-off and seems nothing like the other FF, it looks like it's in modern time (there's cars and all...) and the gameplay i saw some kind of shooting phase...</div></div></div><div class="postprofile" id="profile29549"><!-- div class="online2"></div--><dl><dt><img loading="lazy" src="https://2img.net/u/2511/11/70/79/avatars/184-40.jpg" alt="adro" style="max-width: 150px; max-height: 150px" /><br /><strong style="font-size:1.2em">adro</strong></dt><dd>Forum Great<br /></dd><dd class="dd_award left"></dd><dd class="award_more"></dd><dd><br /></dd><dd><span class="label"><span style="color:#888888;">Posts</span> : </span> 508<br /><span class="label"><span style="color:#888888;">Join date</span> : </span> 2010-05-14<br /></dd><dd><br /></dd><dd> </dd></dl></div><div class="clear"></div><div class="fa_like_div"><p class="fa_like_list" style="display: none;"></p><button class="rep-button " data-href="" data-href-rm=""><svg width="13px" height="13px" viewBox="0 0 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